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Thursday, April 11, 2013

Founding Rush drummer John Rutsey excluded from Rock Hall induction as a member of Rush
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UPDATE - 4/11@3:39PM: In light of this news I thought I'd open up a new poll for voting. So what do you think of this decision by the Rock Hall to exclude Rutsey? Take the poll and let us know.

Rush and the Rock HallThe Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has quietly announced the members of Rush (and of the other 2013 inductees) that will be inducted into the Rock Hall next week. There had been some question among fans as to whether founding Rush drummer John Rutsey (who passed away 5 years ago) would be inducted and - according to Rush's page on the Rock Hall website - he will not be included (thanks Future Rock Legends). The induction ceremony will take place at the Nokia Theatre in Los Angeles next Thursday, April 18th with a truncated, 2-hour version being broadcast on HBO in the US and Canada on May 18th. Dave Grohl and Taylor Hawkins of The Foo Fighters will be inducting the band. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will be officially opening a 2013 inductees exhibit this coming Tuesday, April 16th although the exhibit has already been opened up to the public. The Rush portion of the exhibit includes a Neil Peart snare drum, Alex Lifeson's double-neck guitar and a Geddy Lee bass along with various other items. It will also feature a three-screen multimedia presentation that tells the stories of the inductees. You can check out a short video tour of the new exhibit along with some photographs at the Cleveland Plain Dealer website.

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#63 - Posted 4/15/13 @1:54AM by Most Endangered Species [contact]

#61 - Nice find, thanks for sharing.
#62 - Posted 4/13/13 @9:50PM by stang

I believe that anyone that had a hand in Rush's success should be recognized in the proportionate amount of time spent with the band divided by the number of people spent on each project. Rutsey played on one album with probably 30 to 50 people involved from tech and tour support to album production to marketing. Somebody do the math and figure out how many milliseconds should be taken to recognize his contribution.
#61 - Posted 4/12/13 @8:55PM by RushFanForever [contact]

#60 - Most Endangered Species, here's a related article that pertains to your comments.

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#60 - Posted 4/12/13 @12:46PM by Most Endangered Species [contact]

#55 - Is that true that the members of the E Street Band are not named as inductees, or could it just be an oversight in the website's bio? I noticed that the bios for The Who or Steely Dan do not list the individual inductees by name either.

Could it also be an unfortunate technicality stemming from the fact that his 1973 debut album Greetings From Asbury Park was labeled "Bruce Springsteen" with no mention of the E Street Band on the album's cover? Therefore, technically "Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band" was not eligible for induction until some time later, and voters never bothered to re-nominate them. I don't know, I'm just throwing out theories.....

If true that it was a snub, then that's more evidence of diversity in practice. A good comparison to Springsteen would be Tom Petty. He was inducted as "Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers" and each of the band members were named as inductees including both bass players.

All these loose ends is just another reason why it's hard to take the RRHOF seriously, but at least next Thursday should be fun and memorable regardless.
#59 - Posted 4/12/13 @11:28AM by CraigJ [contact]

#57 - I freaking hate that time slot for Archer. I always miss it. Can he get Y-Y-Zed yet? Or is it still impossible?
#58 - Posted 4/12/13 @11:09AM by Rushian Roulette [contact]

John died May 11, 2008. It so happened that the S and A tour had a scheduled 9 day break to travel from the west to the midwest. It enabled Rush to attended John's wake in Toronto. I went to a few shows in the Midwest which of which the first one (and the first stop on this new leg of the tour) was nine days after John's passing. I was SHOCKED that Geddy did not say anything about John. I thought, oh well, maybe 9 days is not enough time and they wanted to put together a little video tribute. Seeing them in Chicago a few weeks later, there was still NOTHING. If the band can snub a fellow mate a few days after his death, don't expect a mention at the RRHOF. I hope that I am wrong, so please, Ray D, if you or an assistant is reading this, please give the man and his family a little respect. Thank you.
#57 - Posted 4/12/13 @11:00AM by Rush-O-Matic [contact]

There is no reason to induct John Rutsey into the Rock Hall. He is appropriately mentioned in the official bio that is on the Rock Hall website. link

There were (and are) a number of people who were far more instrumental (ha) in Rush's success and longevity that got them to the point of being induction worthy. At the time that John was in the band, they were not that far removed from having lineup and name changes, and he was not a part of what made them stable and relevant. John Rutsey was an important part of Rush's early career, and integral to the band's launch. He was not a factor in what lead them to be inducted.

Also, unrelated, Krieger played another air drum Rush song on Archer last night.
#56 - Posted 4/12/13 @10:53AM by CraigJ [contact]

I'll probably catch flack for this, but I don't think John needs a mention and he certainly shouldn't be in. The first album was good at the time but was, IMO, an also-ran Led Zeppelin imitation. I really don't find myself listening to it unless it comes up in the mix, and I much prefer the versions of those songs on All the World's a Stage. John's playing was pedestrian, and the lyrics he wrote were just OK. If he had remained in the band most of us wouldn't have a clue who Rush is. Again, just MHO.

I have my own company, and I wouldn't even think of mentioning the partner I had in 1997 were we to be honored with some award. Not out of spite or anything like that, it's just that he's been out of the picture for so long and has nothing to do with our business at all. It just wouldn't occur to me I don't think.
#55 - Posted 4/12/13 @9:31AM by RushFanForever [contact]

#54 - mkefromTO - good point about using Pete Best as an example of what you're describing.

However I have to say that the biggest disappointment of omission from the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame was the E Street Band not being inducted with Bruce Springsteen. That still turns my crank in a bitter way.
#54 - Posted 4/12/13 @9:13AM by mkefromTO [contact]

John wasn't in it for the long haul. When people think of Rush they don't think of him being a member or former member. Just like Pete Best, he was a place holder for the final piece of the puzzle. What about all the studio drummers that played on hundreds of tracks for various artists who never get their due.

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