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Tuesday, May 13, 2008

John Rutsey passes away at age 55
Posted at 7:39AM | comments (161)

John RutseyUPDATE - 5/17@9:44AM: The official statement from Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson:

Our memories of the early years of Rush when John was in the band are very fond to us. Those years spent in our teens dreaming of one day doing what we continue to do decades later are special. Although our paths diverged many years ago, we smile today, thinking back on those exciting times and remembering John's wonderful sense of humour and impeccable timing. He will be deeply missed by all he touched.

Alex & Geddy

Donations may be made in John's memory to the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, 7100 Woodbine Avenue, Suite 311, Markham, ON, L3R 5J2 (online: www.jdrf.ca, by phone: 905-944-4631).

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UPDATE - 5/15@10:52AM: A short obituary which includes information for charitable donations in John's name was published in today's National Post (thanks i love rush).

John Rutsey
RUTSEY, John Howard - It is with deep sadness that John's family announces his untimely passing due to complications from his lifelong affliction with diabetes, at age 55. Donations may be made in John's memory to the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, 7100 Woodbine Avenue, Suite 311, Markham, ON, L3R 5J2 (online: www.jdrf.ca, by phone: 905-944-4631). Online Condolences: newbiggingfh@rogers.com.

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UPDATE - 5/13@10:44PM: Some more details are starting to trickle in via Draco over at Counterparts. Apparently the cause of death was a heart attack brought on by complications from diabetes. His family will be making an announcement as to where to send a charitable donation in his memory within the next few days.

If you've been keeping up with the comments in the original blog post over at the Q107 Rock Report you may have noticed a few comments from some notable names in Rush history. Here's one from the woman credited with discovering Rush back in 1974 - Donna Halper:

When I discovered Rush in Cleveland in 1974, John was the drummer and he looked really frail even back then. There were rumours he was on drugs but NO! He was not. He was struggling with diabetes, and would all his life. I hope he rests in peace-- a very good guy with a disease that today is treatable, but back then, not so much.
Posted by Donna L. Halper on 5/13/2008 3:27:15 PM

And here's one from Lindy Young - who is Geddy's brother-in-law and had a short stint in Rush back in 1969:

John was an integral part of the band Rush in the beginning. It was his drive and leader- ship that first help establish the band. A solid drummer with a flare for showmanship made him unique. What a pleasure it was to play with John,Geddy and Alex in the those early days of Rush. Goodbye, my friend.
Posted by Lindy Young on 5/13/2008 5:00:49 PM

Now that I've had all day for this news to sink in, and after a few listens to Rush's debut album ... I'm pretty bummed out about it. Rest in peace John.

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The Q107 Rock Report is reporting that Rush founding member John Rutsey passed away over the weekend according to Rush's management company Anthem. Rutsey was with Rush from 1968 to 1974 and played on the band's self-titled debut album after which he quit the band due to creative differences and health issues. He was replaced by Neil Peart in the summer of 1974. He died on Sunday, May 11 at the age of 55. As of the moment there has been no official statement on a cause of death nor plans for a memorial service. Thanks to Jay C and Brian S for the heads up.

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#1 - Posted 5/13/08 @7:42AM by 1-2-bucklemyshoe [contact]

Grant rest eternal and blessed repose, O Lord, to the soul of Thy servant, the newly-departed John, and make his memory to be eternal.
#2 - Posted 5/13/08 @7:43AM by tripinva [contact]

I hope we hear more on this. Sad news. I just hope he went peacefully.
#3 - Posted 5/13/08 @7:56AM by Driven [contact]

Very sad news, 55 is so young. My heart goes out to his friends and family.

No hits with a google search. This will hit the guys pretty hard.
#4 - Posted 5/13/08 @7:58AM by Salo [contact]

I guess Neil can stop looking over his shoulder now.
#5 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:01AM by drock2112 [contact]

I'm shocked! I just listened to their first album yesterday. Thats still a great rock and roll record. Before and After and need some love are my favorites. I don't know about his personal life after Rush, but none the less 55 is much much too young.
#6 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:15AM by exit...stage left [contact]

R.I.P. brother.
#7 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:16AM by Earthshiner [contact]

Sad news indeed, 55 is way too young.
#8 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:22AM by macallan12 [contact]

Not that it matters less but if I'd read a headline in the news something like this: "Canadian dies, he played in Rush" I would have killed myself before reading it.
#9 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:40AM by adlcbox [contact]

so?
#10 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:06AM by rocinante5m [contact]

A Bitter Sweet year for the Boys....."There is never Love without Pain"......What's that old saying??? When things seem to be going to good, they are......After all the success with the new album, 2 tours, a live Disc and up coming Doc, all the Mags, all the great reviews, something bad was due to happen......First Shelly and now John, the boys must be very sad, especially Alex.......I wonder if they will do anything in his memory????........Neil's probably having some very ill feelings right about now.........

Cool comment there salo #4, very tasteful and respectful.....
#11 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:11AM by Rush Fan Since 1976 [contact]

RIP John...
#12 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:24AM by ShrimpCot_1 [contact]

This is indeed sad news. The boys must be really devastated over this since John was a close friend to them.

Condolences to John's family.
#13 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:35AM by Toronto Writer [contact]

Very sad news. John was an integral part of Rush's beginning as a band. I know he didn't play nearly as important a role then as Neil does now, but who knows what Rush might have been without him way back when. Rest In Peace John.
#14 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:51AM by macallan12 [contact]

I did a deep search online also in Canadian news and couldn't find anything just yet. Maybe throughout the day we will know more.
#15 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:53AM by david [contact]

I personally loved his drumming on the first LP. I think his style added to the raw element that LP is known for. There is really no need to compare him and Neil's drumming- it is what it is...
I'm sure Rush will do something nice for his family.
RIP John...
#16 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:56AM by RushFan82 [contact]

Thanks for being part of the Rush history and RIP!!
#17 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:57AM by rocinante5m [contact]

Where did i see Neil's House Music List????....there's a few songs i didn't recognize at the shows that i really enjoyed....anyone??? anyone????.........thanks.....
#18 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:05AM by LanceTheShred [contact]

RIP Mr. Rutsey...May the lord be with you. Something like this could shake up the set list a bit. Maybe a little medley of the first album in dedication to the man.

How ironic is it that it happened during the 9 day break for the boys? Surely happened at a time when they could pass their condolences without any delays (we think) in the tour. A man to be remembered....
#19 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:05AM by timintey [contact]

#17 - go to rush.com/multimedia/downloads for the listing
#20 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:06AM by timintey [contact]

RIP Mr Rutsey
#21 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:08AM by LanceTheShred [contact]

Roc dude!!! Sad news about Rutsey brother. Don't know the answer to your question??? Gettin stoked for June and July!
#22 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:50AM by exit...stage left [contact]

I think everyone here should listen to the first album in its entirety in memory of John. I'm playing it now.
#23 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:55AM by Pat [contact]

Good idea, #22. Such sad news for so many people. Let's hope it was a peaceful passing.
#24 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:59AM by rocinante5m [contact]

Hey what's up SirLance???.......Go to Nokia May 8th show's gallery, i put up some pics....not as good as Jill's but still pretty cool........
#25 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:00AM by LanceTheShred [contact]

Portnoy has info up on his website-No info on the cause of death at this point. I would assume we will know more soon.

link
#26 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:09AM by LovLee [contact]

#17 - Ed has this posted on Aug, 2007


Tommy Overture - The Who
Mojo Pin - Jeff Buckley
Trains - Porcupine Tree
Solsbury Hill - Peter Gabriel
All Along the Watchtower - Jimi Hendrix
In the Court of the Crimson King - King Crimson
Fear of a Blank Planet - Porcupine Tree
Welcome to the Machine - Pink Floyd
Eria Tarka - The Mars Volta
Roundabout - Yes
Looking for a Place to Happen - The Tragically Hip
Aqualung - Jethro Tull
Last Goodbye - Jeff Buckley
Baba O'Reilly - The Who
Comfortably Numb - Pink Floyd
2112 Overture - String Ensemble
The Temples of Syrinx - Sting Ensemble
I Know What I Like - Genesis
The Prophet - Yes
Grace - Jeff Buckley
18 People Live in Harmony - Dredg
Dazed and Confused - Led Zeppelin
Bobcaygeon - The Tragically Hip
21st Century Schizoid Man - King Crimson
Inertiatic E. S. P. - The Mars Volta
The Sound of Muzak - Porcupine Tree
Echo - Vertical Horizon
Fifty Mission Cap - The Tragically Hip
So Real - Jeff Buckley
Time - Pink Floyd
Good Days, Bad Days - Richard Butler
No Opportunity Necessary - Yes
Anesthetize - Porcupine Tree
Say Hello 2 Heaven - Temple of the Dog
Babe I'm Gonna Leave you - Led Zeppelin
Open Car - Porcupine Tree
Evenflow - Pearl Jam
Hells Bells - AC/DC
Crosstown Traffic - Jimi Hendrix
Kashmir - Led Zeppelin
Thick as a Brick - Jethro Tull
How Many More Times - Led Zeppelin
Us and Them - Pink Floyd
#27 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:09AM by LanceTheShred [contact]

Busy Roc busy. Cool pics! Yeah, I am blown away by Jilly's pics and not just from Rush. She could take fat boys place pretty rapidly. Doing proposals and listening to a little off the first album on the computer Bose. When you come up for the Hershey show, I'll make you a copy of that B&W 2112 show (ME-48) from Pasiac NJ on 12/10/76. Unreal stuff. It has Bastille Day, Anthem, Lakeside Park, 2112 full version and the FBN, In the Mood etc medley for dessert. Did you see yesterdays post about winning a spot on the US Air Band? Thats a motley bunch I'll be airin up with on stage next week!!

Challah-Isn't that a bread???
#28 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:12AM by LanceTheShred [contact]

LovLee-I wasn't on this blog at that time. A killer List!!! Got Mars Volta on there Unk. No Radiohead-Sorry dude.
#29 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:15AM by rocinante5m [contact]

thanks timintey, i knew i saw it somewhere.....SirLance, thanks for nothing..........lol......congrats on landing the gig in NYC!!!!...should be a good time.....don't be getting abig airhead on us now.......don't forget about us little people over here in RIABLand.......

Wow this news F-ed me up today....just got back home to south Florida early this morning after a long 2 weeks out in LA.....this just gets those thoughts running in your head about the inevitable, the only certain thing in life that happens to everyone....."We're only immortal, for a limited time"
#30 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:17AM by shakeitmadam [contact]

R.I.P. John! What a tragedy! 55 is way too soon to leave this world. I hope the guys will be okay. . .
#31 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:22AM by rocinante5m [contact]

thanks LovLee........yes, Challah is bread and it makes the best french toast ever.........i use it instead of HOLLA!!!!.......so CHALLAH!!!!
#32 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:23AM by rushisgreat [contact]

At least he was replaced by neil... No more concert this summer...
#33 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:37AM by chemistry73 [contact]

Sad, sad, sad day. A good, solid drummer who set the stage for a great band.

RIP
#34 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:47AM by hermy [contact]

#25 Speaking of Portnoy...Did anyone else take in the Dream Theater concert here in Minnesota. Not a bad little primer for my Rush show on the 22.

Mike did a meet-n-greet at Ellis Drum shop here in St Paul.
Now I. can put his sticks up next to Neils on the Wall O' Fame
#35 - Posted 5/13/08 @12:01PM by zybraman [contact]

He will be remembered by all of us forever as RUSH fans!
One small step for man, One giant leap for RUSH!
We wont forget him ever. I bet the guys maybe will do something for his memory on the rest of the tour.
#36 - Posted 5/13/08 @12:02PM by RNO2YYZ [contact]

Without Rutsey, there would be no Rush.

Let's give thanks for what he gave to us.

Rest in Peace, John, and thank you.
#37 - Posted 5/13/08 @12:31PM by dedlift [contact]

...On a lighter note...

link

Since there is a conection with Foo Fighters, check out their tour rider. Funny stuff. Just a few examples:

"Please have signs visably posted from crew entrance to catering prior to our arrival. Fat roadies have to eat immediately so they can begin their arduous 70 to 90 minute workday!!!!"

and...

"Selection of cereals-unopened. Do not recycle from last night's Dio Show."
#38 - Posted 5/13/08 @12:38PM by Wall05

R.I.P John.


on a lighter note- i got my tickets today from the Music Today pre-sales. It made me very happy.
#39 - Posted 5/13/08 @12:40PM by Wall05

HAHA... i was wondering why i had the phrase "on a lighter note" stuck in my head. I must have read it subconciosly.

(check 2 posts above)
#40 - Posted 5/13/08 @12:54PM by exit...stage left [contact]

Wall05 - fantastic, that means I should be receiving mine as well. I assume you are talking about the AC show.
#41 - Posted 5/13/08 @12:56PM by Sean [contact]

Rush should immediately add either Finding My Way, Working Man, In The Mood, What You're Doing, or Before and After to the set list in memory of the guy who got it all started with them.

RIP John.
#42 - Posted 5/13/08 @12:58PM by praetorian [contact]

R.I.P.
#43 - Posted 5/13/08 @1:06PM by Wall05

exit-I was actually talking about wachovia center. But i'm sure the AC tix will come soon, seeing as that date is a little farther away than Wachovia. I am just glad something came. I was able to breathe a sigh of relief knowing that my ticket was now in my possesion.

*************************************
There is a POSSIBLITY I will be selling two seats Row 20 pretty much dead center (just a little on geddys side) for Red Rocks. If anyone is interested let me know. Note that this is only a possibilty- the tickets would be face value (i would much rather sell to a real fan and make no money, than make a butt load off someone who is there just cause they have heard of Rush before and can afford it.)
#44 - Posted 5/13/08 @1:25PM by L2blazerman [contact]

Its really too bad. I hope he was able to live a fulfilling life in the absence of RUSH. Hopefully the band will at least mention his passing at the rest of their shows this tour. Without Neil, RUSH would likely have never been huge; without John, RUSH maybe never would have been at all. I'll be listening to the debut today, just to honor a founding member of my favorite band.
#45 - Posted 5/13/08 @1:42PM by drummerdad2112 [contact]

Nothing can survive in a vacuum
No one can exist all alone
We pretend things only happen to strangers
We've all got problems of our own

It's enough to learn to share our pleasures
We can't sooth pain with sympathy
All that we can do is be reminded-
We shake our heads at the tragedy

Every day we're standing in a time capsule
Racing down a river from the past
Every day we're standing in a wind tunnel
Facing down the future coming fast

It's just the age
It's just a stage-
We disengage-
We turn the page...

Looking at the long-range forecast
Catching all the names in the news
Checking out the state of the nation
Learning the environmental blues

Truth is after all a moving target
Hairs to split, and pieces that don't fit
How can anybody be enlightened?
Truth is after all so poorly lit

John, Rest in Peace my Drummer Brother for another Mother.
#46 - Posted 5/13/08 @2:07PM by e2 [contact]

Listening to Before and After. I think they should scrap the second song in the encore (just in case; don't want to spoil it) and replace it with something from the first album. Other memorial options:

- Dedicate "Hope" to him or...

- Replace the next to last song in the second set with an acoustic rendition of something from the first album. This would work because (a) Neil wasn't part of the band and (b) leaving the drums unattended for a song would be a nice tribute to a lost drummer.

What other ideas do you guys have?
#47 - Posted 5/13/08 @2:19PM by PetieLee [contact]

Rest in Peace, John!
#48 - Posted 5/13/08 @2:24PM by Fiat

John Rutsey

Salute!
#49 - Posted 5/13/08 @2:29PM by justinAKAhiney [contact]

is #1 serious?
#50 - Posted 5/13/08 @2:32PM by jaytee578 [contact]

wow, some sad times for the guys--first shelley, then john. very sorry to hear the news, but at the same time, i'm glad that it's not just a nasty rumor. rumors about people dying are not cool.

55--too young. RIP and thanks for what you helped start.
#51 - Posted 5/13/08 @2:37PM by limlight81 [contact]

Rest in peace John our thoughts are with you.
#52 - Posted 5/13/08 @2:38PM by DJ2112 [contact]

FABULOUS IDEA #41!

I think including Finding My Way on the encore list would be an amazing way to remember and recognize John... Have always loved that song, it is an absolute standout on that first album, and the lyrics sorta fit as well...

And while I'm not certain (I no longer have the LP version), I think Finding My Way was the very first song, on that very first Rush album - and there's got to be reason why they chose that song to launch their careers... Let's come full circle fellas!!!

DJ
#53 - Posted 5/13/08 @2:55PM by ythesun [contact]

Sad news. RIP John. The rhythm of the heart is carried on generation after generation.
#54 - Posted 5/13/08 @2:57PM by Washington State Loves Rush [contact]

Johns music will at least still be with us always. Here's to you buddy, a little "Here Again". R.I.P.
#55 - Posted 5/13/08 @2:59PM by Syrinx2112

How about an instrumental medley (ala, R30), but with all the songs from the first album? Can have images of John on the screen while they're playing. Just a thought.
#56 - Posted 5/13/08 @3:04PM by SEASnowdog [contact]

Anyone know what his deal was after Rush-- other than the standard google info "weightlifting and he and alex hung out from time to time". Just curious! SEASnowdog
#57 - Posted 5/13/08 @3:13PM by Joe

I like that idea #46.

I'm sure a few songs from the 1st album will be included in the setlist for the 2nd Leg of this tour. I think "Afterimage" should replace "Between the Wheels" as well.

"Suddenly you were gone, from all the lives you left your mark upon"
#58 - Posted 5/13/08 @3:20PM by unktehila [contact]

yeah, that would be a fitting tribute and i personally would love to hear Afterimage on this tour. though Between The Wheels is one of my favorites.
#59 - Posted 5/13/08 @3:27PM by Michael Senyo [contact]

#49!

#1 is serious. His.Her words are from the Eastern Orthodox Prayers for someone who has died.

ms in la
#60 - Posted 5/13/08 @3:33PM by Dig It Al Man [contact]

This is indeed a sad day, RUSH may never have been without him... I'm sure all fans send their condolences to the Rutsey family, 55 is too young for these times, here's hoping he passed away peacefully. May he rest in peace...

I still have my vinyl of that first album, it will be played this evening, and for full effect, at maximum volume.

Our boys will definitely pay homage to him, I like these ideas I've heard especially about the medley of the 1st album songs.
#61 - Posted 5/13/08 @3:36PM by Hemisferios [contact]

As a tribute, I will listen the entire first album.

Thank you John!
#62 - Posted 5/13/08 @4:03PM by kevin [contact]

Love it or Hate it, the first Rush album is completely different and its own piece of art. No other Rush Album sounds like it and its the only reason these guys are here now. Without working man Rush is not Rush, period. And thats Johns contribution that no one can take away from him. I sometimes feel like the guys shy away from there past as if there not proud of it, but the first album was a furious onslaught of Hard Rock and to me its a different band, not better or worse just different, so thats how I will remember him. Rest in Peace :(
#63 - Posted 5/13/08 @4:05PM by Hemisfears [contact]

Makes me think back to the recent Rockline show and the John Rutsey question. And the responses by Geddy, Alex and also here. Gulp.

R.I.P. John Rutsey. The first Rush album will always be a classic. Now it means a little bit more.

The rest of the tour should be dedicated to his memory.
Perhaps a small video presentation on the screen before the show begins, or at least a mention of him by Geddy near the end of the show and put his picture up on the screen. And play something like "Before and After" or "Take a Friend."
#64 - Posted 5/13/08 @4:12PM by necromancer 2112 [contact]

i really dont think they will do much,but maybe i could see them adding working man to the tour!! that would be kick ass!!
#65 - Posted 5/13/08 @4:16PM by max o'webster

It is just a shame it wasn't Ross Halfshit. Perhaps they would play "The Camera Eye"

RIP John. sad news!
#66 - Posted 5/13/08 @4:20PM by sunlightoncrom [contact]

Alas, John... we hardly knew ye...RIP
#67 - Posted 5/13/08 @4:33PM by sunlightoncrom [contact]

In a lighter note... Sir Lance, congratulations on nailing the spot on America's Air Band. Way to go!! we missed you the last coupla days as the infamous bust or no bust debate on the GOAT tournament was goin on... Looks like we're coastin to an easy win over LedZep. The Gorilla roared and the little girls ran home to hide under the bed.
#68 - Posted 5/13/08 @4:38PM by coolphantom190

This news is so sad.

All the songs on RUSH are so good!!!

This is really sad! :^(

Now I gotta listen to the first album until I see the boys who are still alive!
#69 - Posted 5/13/08 @4:39PM by coolphantom190

R.I.P.
#70 - Posted 5/13/08 @5:37PM by SF in Prague [contact]

Everything must come to an end...
...but from our dust something new will spring forth...

any age is less than ideal for the big endo...let's just rock as hard as we can.
For John and the whole universal family.
#71 - Posted 5/13/08 @5:40PM by djchachi [contact]

John, you and your family are in our prayers. Your legacy will live on in the band and in Rush fans forever!

I propose to everyone to go out this week and buy a copy of RUSH (Amazon, $7 and up) and give it to someone who has not yet discovered the power of Rush - a son, a daughter, a niece, a nephew, a coworker, your grandparents. Buy yourself a second and third copy - one for the office and one for the car. This would be the greatest tribute to an artist who breathed life into this band we love and admire so much!

In this digital age of music downloads, copying cds/dvds, itunes, and ringtones, buying the first Rush album (cd) RUSH and handing it to someone will mean that much more to them and they will appreciate what Rush has to offer.

And who knows, maybe RUSH will hit platinum status by the end of the month!

I guarantee John is up there 'Workin' them angels - Overtime'!

-Matt R. (dj chachi)
#72 - Posted 5/13/08 @5:55PM by max o'webster

Thats a nice idea. I played the first Rush album on a car trip last week and my kids 6 and 3 loved it. I play in a band every week and the first Rush album will be played before our set and during the intermission.
#73 - Posted 5/13/08 @6:23PM by glortiz [contact]

A sad day for anyone who has ties to Rush, including the fans. My thoughts and prayers are with the Rutsey family. John, in heaven, is in a much better place now, probably with a gleaming new kit. He won't be forgotten, especially in this forum.

The boys will find a way to pay tribute to the. Of this I have no doubt and look forward to seeing how they decide to do it.
#74 - Posted 5/13/08 @6:31PM by Rob [contact]

Has anyone read the comments on the Q107 rock report? Some pretty big names from the past......Donna Halper, Ian Grandy, Lindy Young....

I'm sure the band will release some kind of statement in the next 24 hrs


RIP Mr Rutsey
#75 - Posted 5/13/08 @6:41PM by Rob [contact]

#56 I posted a comment about your question last year....John Rutsey left Rush saying there were no hard feelings..Shortly after his departure, He joined the staff of Rolling Stone mag. some years later, he also joined the staff of The Rock and roll hall of fame.

Geddy and Alex..who's laughing now?
#76 - Posted 5/13/08 @7:06PM by ctk2112 [contact]

R.I.P. John.

Rock in Peace! Kind of a contradiction in terms, but suitable.

My deepest condolences to the boys and their fans.

#8 has got to stop thinking morbid thoughts!

I just emailed Mr. Classic @ WNCX with the news.
www.wncx.com plays the most rush out of any station in this area!

CK
#77 - Posted 5/13/08 @7:11PM by skarni [contact]

I remember reading somewhere long ago that JR was a diabetic and that's why he quit the band. Perhaps complications of the disease had something to do with his death. Very sad indeed.

Thank you, John, for founding the band we love and gather here to commemorate. We commemorate you now in you untimely passing.

James in Sauble Beach
#78 - Posted 5/13/08 @7:18PM by vixxy [contact]

RIP John ---
#79 - Posted 5/13/08 @7:51PM by dman2332 [contact]

I love the second tribute idea in #46. It's a great way to pay tribute to a fallen member and I don't think Neil would mind paying his respect (after all we know John is the reason Neil joined). RIP John
#80 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:08PM by TestForEcho09 [contact]

Dang, this sucks.

R.I.P John.
#81 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:09PM by sunlightoncrom [contact]

Well, after the storm that swept through this blog during the last 10 days or so, it should be noted for posterity that Rush's 2112 has been officially elected "greatest album of all time" by the G.O.A.T. blog, beating Led Zeppelin IV. (guess we didn't really need that sort of confirmation, though)

Even if this thing ended up in a somewhat less exciting fashion than many of us would have liked, I believe kudos are still in order to a few of our comrades... Wall05 for bringing the subject up and making sure the rest of us noticed it, New World Fan, Main Monkey Business, Lance the Shred and many others for rallying support and keeping the momentum going.

I'm not sure if "the end justified the means" in this case, but at the least Rush fans proved again to be a passionate and determined bunch, ready to fight for the recognition that this greatest of all bands deserves. And THAT is a very positive thing.
#82 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:17PM by desertrushgirl

Sad sad. Rush might not be here at all if not, in part, for John.

Rush sees too many funerals - and not because of the excesses of rock life. They've just had bad luck.

I'm sure the tour will continue with tributes to John.

RIP John, and thank you for making Rush.
#83 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:22PM by perfect sphere [contact]

#1, nicely put. You can call me Faithless too, but poetically, some religeons have it down... and the spirit of the words is quite appropriate. It's all about the Spirit. And the Fascination.

Rush management, PLEASE take that grim reaper walk-on away from Witchhunt. That really gave me a prescient shiver (more like a stomach punch) at the Phoenix show, and now this. Oy! (see PHX concert review string)

Just wondering what it was like to live in the wake of the speedboat called Rush. That has to have an effect on someone. It's like being passed up for a promotion, and your slick-kid successor goes on to become the company hero. It's those little things in life that become the soundbight of one's obituary... like that's what officially defines you.

But in "eternal" memory Mr. Rutsey will be remembered as having contributed in a significant way to the noble profession of Music.

Peace to everyone...
#84 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:27PM by sunlightoncrom [contact]

As sad and untimely as John's passing is, at least it comes at a time when the band will have a few days to honor it, and yes... if possible it would be a great homage if they could do something for the rest of the tour as a tribute.
#85 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:27PM by twon [contact]

holy shit.
#86 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:29PM by TestForEcho09 [contact]

I think Afterimage would be a great tribute.
#87 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:33PM by sunlightoncrom [contact]

Sphere, I'm with you on that... That grim reaper figure was indeed creepy... now that I think about it, he seems to meander right up to the drum kit and then back... gee... good thing i'm not superstitious!!
#88 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:34PM by twon [contact]

i haven't read all the reviews. was it complications of diabetes? so f* young! something about the guy. just always a mystery.

rest in peace, john. our prayers are with you and your family.

"i felt a shadow cross my heart".
#89 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:43PM by sunlightoncrom [contact]

Wow... both Lindy Young (earlier Rush band member) and Donna L. Halper (DJ who introduced Rush in the US) have posted comments on the Q107 report... interesting bits of insight into those old days of Rush.
#90 - Posted 5/13/08 @8:44PM by ATG

RIP
#91 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:12PM by white oak [contact]

Finding my Way would be great in the encore- I would swap with One little Victory and leave Bangkok and YYZ to finish an awesome concert tribute. RUSH ROCKS! ! !
#92 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:30PM by The B-Man

Back in 1987 I had the pleasure of doing an audio interview with John. At that time, he selling insurance and still collecting royalty checks from the first Rush album. I'll try to forward Ed some bits from our conversation.

R.I.P.
#93 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:35PM by sesquatch [contact]

R.I.P. John, your work on RUSH will never be forgotten. Though not the first RUSH work I heard, it will live forever!
#94 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:52PM by GRgreg [contact]

How's this for a cool tribute: Alex and Geddy playing a medeley of the first album, with no drummer, just a white spotlight on the drum kit? Probably wouldn't be a dry eye in the house.

Kinda have a weird feeling that Neil wouldn't want much to do with this.

Hopefully someone from the crew or management will read this and relay it the guys.

Thoughts??????

Greg
#95 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:52PM by TestForEcho09 [contact]

Time Stand Still.
#96 - Posted 5/13/08 @9:54PM by GRgreg [contact]

To add to my post #95

Only do it once, at the Toronto show.

Greg
#97 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:02PM by jmreidfo [contact]

...and the meek shall inherit the earth...

He's gotta be smiling because he knows WE will never forget him.
#98 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:02PM by rocinante5m [contact]

There are alot of great ideas posted but i don't think they will do anything that will take too much away from the show, not to be harsh but the reality is this tour is about Rush as they are now....and as GRgreg noted, Neil wouldn't want much to do with this, so with that said i don't think Geddy and Alex would want to put too much of a downer on the show for the fans or for Neil......i guess the one good thing about this, if there could be one, is the timing of it, they have time to think about it.........TestForEcho, i think you nailed it, Time Stand Still would be perfect.....My thought is start the encore with PTB, then play YYZ and close it out with TSS and with a little jam at the end with Finding My Way or something off of RUSH.......

Man what a bummer today turned out to be......
#99 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:23PM by rocinante5m [contact]

Just checked out Wiki again and i found this.......

"On May 11, 2008, Rutsey passed away from a heart attack while he was asleep."

i guess we will know for sure soon.....
#100 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:23PM by vitalsign [contact]

I seriously doubt they will do anything more than say a word or two .... if that. I really feel bad for the guy, kind of like Pete Best. Hope he went with a smile on, fair thee well John.
#101 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:36PM by Bravest Face [contact]

Whether the guys decide to do anything or choose to remember quietly on their own is entirely up to them and obviously either way we shouldn't judge them otherwise.

After rocinante's report, I checked out wiki myself and it does in fact say that, shedding some new light. Good to hear he died in his sleep, many people don't get that option and would gladly choose to. RIP John!
#102 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:38PM by windycitygirl [contact]

rip john. prayers for your family.
#103 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:42PM by GreeneWolfe [contact]

Not to speculate on the cause of death, but for someone afflicted with juvenile diabetes to make it to 55 is to just about be expected. Statistically, juvenile diabetics live 2/3 a normal lifespan. Most likely his death was Diabetes related. I myself have had the condition since I was 13. People who had diabetes back in the 1960's and 1970, Like Rutsey, did not have the technology and testing materials like we have today. Diabetics could not test their own blood sugar till the early 1980's, so they had very little control of the illness. RIP JOHN...you are in a better place now! Thank you for helping create this band. Rush fans the world over owe you a debt of gratitude.
#104 - Posted 5/13/08 @10:50PM by sully_digs [contact]

Well that sucks. 55 is too young and RUSH related deaths are never a good sign.
#105 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:20PM by PwrWndws

So sorry to hear about John. I definitely agree with the other posts.
I think the boys should pay tribute and replace "Between The Wheels" with "Afterimage". I think that would be fitting and proper.
#106 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:23PM by PwrWndws

or anything from the first record. My choice would be "Working Man"
#107 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:48PM by The Clansman 2112 [contact]

I'm been trying to get Jim Ladd, of KLOS fame, to play something on his show tonight from the first Rush album but so far no luck!!!

RIP John
#108 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:53PM by wmr [contact]

RIP John....No Rush without ya...
#109 - Posted 5/13/08 @11:58PM by EndlesslyRocking [contact]

May Mr. Rutsey,s soul rest in peace & i pray that he realized thoughout his life what an integral part in Rush,s history he played! I hope he didnt suffer to harshly w/his succumbness! My prayers are also w/his family & close friends! After being an avid Rush fan for more than 25 years, till this day, thier debut album "RUSH" is & always will be one of my favorites of all time! John was one hell of a drummer!........ Now off to bed w/my ear-buds, i-pod & Rush,s debut album!
Cheers to you john!
#110 - Posted 5/14/08 @12:20AM by Yx2Z

Wow, this is all so sudden. It was just a couple days ago i was listening to "RUSH" and wondering what John was up to these days...such a young age too.
R.I.P John,Rush wouldnt be what it is without you
#111 - Posted 5/14/08 @1:17AM by primemover_3 [contact]

RIP John....
#112 - Posted 5/14/08 @8:24AM by joanneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [contact]

Thank you Mr. Rutsey...

RIP
#113 - Posted 5/14/08 @8:33AM by Hemisferios [contact]

If the Snakes & Arrows Live DVD is not printed yet, it should be dedicated to John.
#114 - Posted 5/14/08 @9:38AM by mommy_of_zuzu [contact]

My heart goes out to his friends and family. His entry and departure from Rush is a part of rock history. He mattered.
#115 - Posted 5/14/08 @9:40AM by e2 [contact]

I think the band will offer nothing more than a subdued mention. Nothing else.
#116 - Posted 5/14/08 @9:46AM by LovLee [contact]

Bless his family and friends through this difficult time
John will always be remembered

Whatever the guys decide to do, public or private, is of their choosing and that should be enough for everyone else.

Bless you John, Rest in peace
#117 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:11AM by david [contact]

I agree with #113, they should dedicate the upcoming dvd to him...

Sure, the band has a right to do what they want but it would be a poor PR move to do nothing.

The fans seem to want a dedication of some sort....
#118 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:21AM by david [contact]

I do not see them rehearsing any material from the debut lp. They're most likely taking time out to be with their family this week...

My guess is they'll dedicate a song to him or possibly play Working Man in his honor...

I listened to Before and After on the way to work and to this day I still enjoy the raw energy that lp. has.

John's style was perfect for it...

Oh...as I said earlier... it would be foolish to compare John and Neil - it is what it is!!!!!

RIP John.
#119 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:32AM by fansince74 [contact]

I was deeply saddened by the loss of John. Being a fan for 34 years, I know that if it wasn't for his contributions in the early days, there wouldn't be RUSH today. I'm sure that he will be greatly missed by Alex & Ged as well as all those whose lives he touched. He was a fine drummer in his own right who had to deal with the dreadful desease of diabetets his entire life. Let us each take a moment out of respect and admoration to honor and remember him in our own way.
#120 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:34AM by Fiat

I did get the impression from the last Rockline appearance that Geddy's reaction to the call about whether they talk to John was less than enthusiastic. I believe Alex even thought it a bit odd. I sensed eye rolling.
All this talk about them replacing/dedicating songs is presumptuous.
I can see it now. They break into Afterimage with pictures of Rutsey shown on the screen. Please.

John was a great drummer for the first album...38 years ago.
His spot in the pantheon is etched appropriately. Let it go.
RIP
#121 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:40AM by sesquatch [contact]

I'd like to think that Neil knows that without the hard work of his predecessor John all of his success and hard fought battles wouldn't have occured. Given his losses, and the support he received, I'd also like to think he'd be more than willing to support Alex and Geddy should they desire to memorialize John during the rest of the tour. But I don't think it should over shadow their effrots either.

If they do something, and I hope they do at least acknowledge his passing, I believe it will be special and classy as is the band themselves.
#122 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:45AM by ATG

#120 is spot on.
I heard the eye rolling to. Like " what the hell is this being asked about for? "

Rushs first album was Fly By Night.


Respects and condolences to Rutsey and family.
#123 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:50AM by Marathon Man [contact]

Rest in Peace John Rustey and Thanks.
#124 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:50AM by unktehila [contact]

I just don't really think Rush will do anything out of their set-in-stone setlist this tour to honor John Rutsey.
hey, i could be wrong... but we also heard that there were going to be "big changes... big surprises" for this leg of the tour and we all know that didn't really happen. i'd be surprised i guess if they actually broke from the setlist, they seem awfully reluctant to change things up too much.
maybe they'll mention him or even rip out a part/version of Working Man for a show or something, but i doubt it.
they're probably more likely to give him a mention or dedication on the upcoming DVD, like Hemisferios says.
#125 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:52AM by sesquatch [contact]

I couldn't listen to the Rockline interview, so I'll have to go back and listen. If what is referenced in #120 and 122 is correct then all this is probably mute from the Band's perspective.
RUSH ON!
#126 - Posted 5/14/08 @11:21AM by drummerdad2112 [contact]

No disrespect to John or the Rutsey Family, may he Rest in Peace, and we are all grateful for his contributions to Rush or otherwise.

After having some time to think this through, I would think that Rush will release a "statement" and that should be the end of it. The spotlight on a playerless drum set, etc, etc, would be a nice touch. But let's be realistic. He was in the band how long ago? They chose their own direction(s). And please don't get me wrong, he did play an important roll in the formation of rush, but (god forbid) when Ged's brother-in-law passes on are they going to show pictures of him up there on the screen because he was in the band too, after all, he did make some sort of impact on our boys as we know them, Probably not.

Look at AC/DC for instance; when Bon Scott died did they play a song without a singer?
But yes, they chose as a band to take care of his father ever since. There will be a location to which contributions will be made. I am quite sure that the boys will do their part in one form or another.

Although they had been in-touch (in the 80's I think is what Alex said on Rock Line, right?) there has been little to no connection between them for quite some time. Heck, I haven't spoken to the guy's in my high school band since after graduation in 1983

John Rutsey was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. Lucky to be on their first self released record. None of the three of them (alex, ged, john) could not have had a clue as to what would happen 5, 10, r-30 years later. The argument can be made that if neil didn't return from England, Ged and Alex would have found another drummer, and on and on.

Chance are , that if john had stayed as part of the band they would have gone the route of a three record "company deal" and it would have been all over, but who's to say? The industry is strange that way

Statement - yes
Change the setlist - probably not, surely not expected. If they did, neil should play.
#127 - Posted 5/14/08 @11:22AM by scottc [contact]

sad news, but doubtful anything will change as stated already. Neil's probably already motorcycling towards Moline, Alex and Geddy flew home.

As a percentage, not counting Working Man or Finding My Way I listen to RUSH 1% of the time, if that.

8 days till St. Paul. Sweet eh Hermy!
#128 - Posted 5/14/08 @11:49AM by dwman [contact]

R.I.P John Rutsey Working(Out)Man
#129 - Posted 5/14/08 @11:51AM by rocinante5m [contact]

How's it going drummerdad???......i couldn't agree with you more, i think you summed it up quite well......i hate for this to turn into who was more important in their life and that sort of thing, but i feel that Shelly had a very intricate role in Rush today, and for some time and they didn't feel the need to do anything special during a show for her so i think a statement will be made and that will probably be about it, maybe at most a dedication on the live CD.........again, like drummerdad said, not to be disrespectful but that's just my feeling now after thinking about for a while and reading everyone's posts......whatever they decide to do or not to do i'm sure it will be the right call........

Btw, i just listened to the Rockline interview and I don't get the overwhelming feeling that they were exactly rolling their eyes at the John question, infact it was a 11 year old kid asking the question, which they were quite happy about........i'm sure now they maybe wishing they answered the question a little differently though.....
#130 - Posted 5/14/08 @12:01PM by drummerdad2112 [contact]

Yo roc,
doing good overall, waiting for my shows locally (notice i said my shows, they will be playing for me personally as i have purchased all the other tickets to the venue, ahhhh to be rich.....NOT) the band thing is going well learnin' a few new tunes, just wish they were rush tunes.

as for the above,
with out one, the other could not have existed, but anything much past that is a strech. any of us that have been in bands throuhout their lifetimes knows this to be true.
#131 - Posted 5/14/08 @12:05PM by david [contact]

Sorry but Fly by Night doesn't come close to their debut.
Sure it's a great LP. but it lacks the raw talent that the first lp. had.
So the comment about FBN being their first lp. is just dumb...

I also love how some of you are trying to justify rush NOT doing a dedication for him. Who cares how long it's been, he still was a founding member.
#132 - Posted 5/14/08 @12:22PM by Michael Senyo [contact]

I'll join all of you in extending condolences to the family of John Rutsey, and expressing sorrow at his passing. We're all human beings, and the death of any person, at such a (relatively) young age after a life long health related struggle should be moving - and many have expressed this.

Many are suggesting various kinds of tributes, memorials and remembrances. Having followed the Band since 1974, my feeling is that their repsonse to his death will be humble, dignified and classy - all in keeping with who Rush is/are (never could figure that useage out)now.

Rutsey played on one album,almost forty years ago, and helped form the Band when they were all kids, not unlike many here and some of our own kids. He lived the dream for a little while, but for better or worse in his case, they moved on. We need to respect the part of the dream to which he contributed, but I think it ends there.

WITH Rutsey, we wouldn't have Rush as we know it today.

ms in la
#133 - Posted 5/14/08 @12:25PM by cincyrushgirl

Sorry to hear this sad news. Diabetes is a terrible disease!
I think the band will issue a statement and maybe a dedication on a DVD - doubt if they will alter the setlist.
#134 - Posted 5/14/08 @12:26PM by Snoscootr [contact]

RIP John Rutsey

#126 I think you are correct. When I saw them opening night for the Vapor Trails Tour, Jon Entwistle had passed the night before and they dedicated Between the Sun and Moon in his memory.

If they choose to do something I would venture to guess a statement on the Website and maybe a song dedication the first night in Moline

32 days Till Mansfield!
53 till Saratoga!
55 Till Mohegan!
59 Till Manchester!
#135 - Posted 5/14/08 @12:47PM by drummerdad2112 [contact]

We need to respect the part of the dream to which he contributed...

I whole-heartedly agree, could not have said it better myself
#136 - Posted 5/14/08 @12:51PM by Sean [contact]

What is with people's math on here? One person saying Rutsey recorded an album with Rush 40 years ago another saying 38 years ago...wow are the math skills that bad in this place?

34 years ago was when Rush recorded and released Rush. Hence why R30 was in 2004.

Where people get this 38,40 years ago stuff is nuts.
#137 - Posted 5/14/08 @1:07PM by Michael Senyo [contact]

My thinking was incorrect. The number I used was in reference to the formation of the Band.

My deepest apology for having disturbed you so, #136. I have no doubt you are much more intelligent than most of us posting here.
#138 - Posted 5/14/08 @1:08PM by Snoscootr [contact]

#136 if you click on the John Rutsey Wikipedia link it says he was a member of "RUSH" from 1968-1974
link

HUDIGAST- That RUSH would be jamming so great all these years later :)
#139 - Posted 5/14/08 @1:18PM by drummerdad2112 [contact]

Krrrrr....Lance...come in...over

please breakout krrrr...rush chopper one...krrrr find Leonard Nemoy krrrr...and go insearch of...krrrr...krrrr someone that has good math skills...krrrr
come-on...krrrrr
#140 - Posted 5/14/08 @3:06PM by Sean [contact]

I am 34 years old Senyo, I took exception to losing 4 to 6 more years like it was nothing! ;)
#141 - Posted 5/14/08 @3:11PM by drummerdad2112 [contact]

so, if i'm right, we're worried about a dog year...almost?


Krrrrr....Lance...come in...over
#142 - Posted 5/14/08 @3:18PM by Michael Senyo [contact]

Well, I'm older than you. No need to go Ross Halfin about it.

ms
#143 - Posted 5/14/08 @3:26PM by david [contact]

Wow...After reading the posts for today I.ve decided that The Maiden fans are right...We are a bunch of geeks.
#144 - Posted 5/14/08 @5:18PM by rocinante5m [contact]

Geeks with poor math skills ;)
#145 - Posted 5/14/08 @5:28PM by desertrushgirl

LOL! I'm not a geek. But some of you folks need to spend less time here.
#146 - Posted 5/14/08 @7:41PM by PaulTheRushGeek [contact]

Haven't logged in for quite some time and catching up on news. Said thing about John Rutsey. That first album was good solid rock & roll.

I'm reminded of a post on another web site where people were cutting up Rutsey and making fun of the fact that he left Rush and then they went on to gain such success. I was sick and mad as hell reading those comments. He did what he had too, considering his health, and it worked out best for everyone involved.

Rest in peace, Mr Rutsey. May God bring comfort to your family and friends.

Paul
#147 - Posted 5/14/08 @8:27PM by unktehila [contact]

ms, #142... that's funny sh*t man, i think we should use that analogy/quote regularly in here when necessary, adopt it as part of RIAB lingo:

"no need to go Ross Halfin about it"
#148 - Posted 5/14/08 @8:33PM by jal2112 [contact]

Rest Well John. Thank you for all you did for all us Rush fans. You'll never be forgotten..

I'm runnin',
findin' my way back home.
#149 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:18PM by Sean [contact]

Rutsey's death is mentioned on the front page of AOL News...but there is one problem...they use ALEX LIFESON'S PICTURE!!!!!!!!!!!


link
#150 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:31PM by Lerxster [contact]

RIP John Rutsey. You will always be a part of RUSH.
#151 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:39PM by Black Sedan [contact]

R.I.P. John, thanks for forming one of the greatest bands of all time. THANK YOU! I'll never forget you brother.
#152 - Posted 5/14/08 @10:49PM by mtjeffs [contact]

U know what would be real nice..... If neil pulled out some new (yet unreleased album) song... worked it up with the boys and dedicated that one to john rutsey at the next show. Of course we would still have to wait until 09 to get the studio version of it....

Hey...I can dream can't I???
#153 - Posted 5/14/08 @11:53PM by ATG

lol @ #149


Sheesh, what idiots!
#154 - Posted 5/14/08 @11:58PM by rocinante5m [contact]

f-ed up find there sean, looks like Alex might have another job for his lawyers.....that's crazy scary shit.....where was the editor, on vacation?.......
#155 - Posted 5/15/08 @8:23AM by desertfan [contact]

Yes, it is sad news and I still enjoy listening to the debut album very much.

Still, I don't expect any kind of change in the live set. They might make a mention of some sort in the first show back from the break, but probaly nothing after that.

As Ged and Alex have said, they really haven't had any connection or contact with John in a very long time.

Anyone who read Contents Under Pressure that came out after the R30 tour knows how they felt John was a bit aloof and pretty much hung them out to dry when it came to submitting lyrics he was supposed to have ready.

They all made their life choices and it is what it is.

All these tribute ideas, while interesting and noble, are just a bit excessive to ever expect to come to fruition.

RIP John. You WILL be remembered by each of us in our own way...as it probably should be.
#156 - Posted 5/15/08 @11:06AM by Cygnus-X1 [contact]

I have been checking out rush.com and there is no mention of Johns death that I can find anywhere. Does anybody find that odd?? Even a quick RIP or something?? If it's there somewhere and I've missed it please let me know.
#157 - Posted 5/15/08 @3:57PM by chutch15 [contact]

Can Donna Halper ever complete a sentence without mentioning that she "discovered" Rush? She spun them for the first time in the United States. Great. Thank you very much. You'd think she discovered the cure for cancer the way she tossed that around. She had 15-minutes of non-monetary fame in 1974. Get over yourself, Donna.
#158 - Posted 6/1/08 @2:18AM by Fiat

Sorry but Fly by Night doesn't come close to their debut.
Sure it's a great LP. but it lacks the raw talent that the first lp. had.
So the comment about FBN being their first lp. is just dumb...

I also love how some of you are trying to justify rush NOT doing a dedication for him. Who cares how long it's been, he still was a founding member.

#131 - Posted 5/14/08 @12:05PM by david [contact]

Fly By Night has so much more range than the first album, it's not even funny. Get over Rutsey and the first album. It was decent but nothing close to what Peart brings to the table.
#159 - Posted 7/2/08 @6:30PM by niz2112 [contact]

Sorry to hear this news. John's drumming on "Rush" is very enjoyable to listen to. This guy was definitely a fine drummer in his own right.
#160 - Posted 11/6/08 @12:35AM by Webster [contact]

John, I always enjoyed your company at our favorite watering hole in TO. I could be sure to have a good laugh of your wit. The conviviality we engaged in, your intellect, your kindness and your humour will be remembered forever. RIP.
Adios Amigo.
ET
#161 - Posted 7/17/09 @12:11AM by RushFanForever [contact]

Here is an interview with John Rutsey from Macleans magazine from awhile back.

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